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V6 x type jag any good or potential money pit?


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#1 OFFLINE   michael1703

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 09:25 AM

Currently I've got a 1995 jaguar x300 4litre sovereign, there's not wrong with it but I've seen an opportunity to buy an x type cheap,it's 2002 2 litre v6 auto

A few mpg better would be good for its 300 miles a week commute it does,but the current straight 6 is bulletproof and I know nothing about the v6

Anyone owned one/suffered one?

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 01:43 PM

Never had one but the x300 wins for me.



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Posted 29 September 2013 - 01:51 PM

Our lasses uncle had one new in 2001 i through the driving position was poor,left leg hard against the center console with no were to go


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Posted 29 September 2013 - 02:58 PM

I have never owned an X300, but have had an XJ40 and a V6 X-Type.

 

The X-Type is a good, smooth and much underrated car. I found it entirely reliable. However, the XJ40 was preferable in every way bar marginally worse fuel consumption and a smaller, awkward shaped boot. Choosing between the two, I'd much rather have an X300 than an X-Type.


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Posted 29 September 2013 - 03:13 PM

Another reason for our old mate Ash Micro to come back, he's the whizz kid on these cars.

 

I (briefly) had an X-Type and didn't gel with it at all, it just offered nothing in the way of anything noticeable that would make me want to keep one long term or whatever.


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Posted 29 September 2013 - 04:45 PM

OK, Stand back everyone....

 

 

 

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 05:07 PM

Well, that's not necessarily a bad thing. An S-Type is just a posh Lincoln. The headlamps always looked too squashed for me. Here endeth my entire knowledge of the X-Type.


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Posted 29 September 2013 - 06:40 PM

I think in one of the recent issues of car mechanics they said they rust like a trooper. (Not izuzu)

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 06:44 PM

I never knew troopers rusted. The X type looks small inside. I don't mind the look of the exterior, but the X300 is much nicer, really it is. 



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Posted 29 September 2013 - 06:46 PM

X300 any day.

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 06:55 PM

Are you sure it's so much better on OMGMPG?

I find especially 2.0s are royal guzzlers and have no real advantage over a 3-4 litre, especially in bader-spec.


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Posted 29 September 2013 - 08:00 PM

I've seen a few that in true Ford tradition where the outer sills have gone crusty enough to be a MOT failure.



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Posted 29 September 2013 - 10:28 PM

X Types, pez ones. OK, good, cos the diesel ones are rubbish.

 

The 2.1 is FWD and just about the same drink-wise as the 2.5. The 3 litre is a bit juicier yet. 2.5 and 3.0 are AWD.

 

If you do buy one, the first thing to do is to take off the OE locking wheel nuts and throw them away. You cannot believe how much hassle getting a busted one off is. No-one wants to know about getting it off. OE non locking wheelnuts are £1 from a main dealer.

Mine's a 2005 2.5 SE AWD saloon with a slushbox which is 5 speed and not six like the 2.5 S Type. I get 22.5 mpg around town, a bit more on a run, rarely more than 31-32.

 

Stuff that goes wrong:

 

Windscreens leak, and drown the TCU (gearbox brain) which is in the front passenger footwell and a bugger to get out if the car also has automatic wipers because the control unit for them is on top of it.

 

The auto-dimming mirrors never work, and if the car has automatic headlights, they'll work whenever they feel like it. The sensor is in the shite mirror.

 

Interior trim is generally good.

 

They eat batteries.

 

Other stuff that goes wrong with them (this one is my fifth X Type)

Brake servo anti return valves have a bitch-fit and stop working. You now have no servo assistance. Dirt cheap fix, though

This one's fun: the throttle pedal can jam right down as some cars had an incorrect type of throttle stop fitted (on the floor) and the pedal arm got jammed behind it. 200 BHP, remember. Worth checking!
 

Generally speaking, they're not too bad. Most gearbox faults are actually the aforementioned submerged TCU. There's a fat man on YouTube who'll show you how to fix one with WD40 and Duck Tape (really!)

Good points: fast, sure-footed, comfortable, generally well made. Post 2004 cars have better rust prevention. Parts are generally in line with "Normal" rather than "FUCK ME HOW MUCH?!?!", although wheels are expensive new.

I had estate versions, one of which was an uber-rare ex dealer demo Sovereign SE 2.2 diesel. The sodding mirror/auto headlights on that never worked either.



 


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Posted 30 September 2013 - 02:16 PM

First off, it's not "just a posh Mondeo".

The only serious bit carried over from Ford (apart from the engines, LOL YO IRONY) is the rear suspension which came out of the Mondeo estate. Apart from that, your average Ford mechanic woulden't know it from Adam.

 

I've heard a few people in the trade refer to the X-Type 2.2 derv as a "Transit saloon", and they are whiney, lathergic lumps of poo in my experience.

Don't know all that much about the V6s, apart from it was meant to be rather fun in the Mondeo...


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Posted 30 September 2013 - 03:12 PM

^+1. Petrol X Types are around 20% Mondeo. Someone mentioned rotten sills. May well be the case, but I've never seen one. My S Type was getting a tad crusty, though.


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Posted 30 September 2013 - 04:04 PM

I've heard a few people in the trade refer to the X-Type 2.2 derv as a "Transit saloon", and they are whiney, lathergic lumps of poo in my experience.

 

My ex-boss owned a diesel X-type. I can confirm that the engine is a gutless, unrefined piece of shite. Totally out of place in the otherwise sleek, sport-kitted car.






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