205 gti Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Hi i'm a mate of Scotty (Hillmanimp) and new to the site. As you may have guessed by the nickname, i'm the owner of a 205 gti. Is it autoshite? I'm guessing you guys might think not, but it was well cheap, and it is in bits in my garage, so hopefully that will count in its favour. An image of it before it was crashed into and taken off the road: Its now in bits in me garage getting a bit of a cack handed resto, new rear beam, wishbones, driveshafts, brake cables, handbrake cables, suspension mounts..... And so on. I'm also fitting a straight through big bore exhaust, lowering springs, guttman body kit, single wiper conversion.... only joking. Its staying standard really. Anyone happen to have a mint interior kicking about? [/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r.welfare Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 It all comes down to whether "shite" is defined on condition, age, or generally poor design/engineering. A 205GTI, in nice order, only hits the middle criteria! (Although some repairs on old Peugeots generally make you wonder what they were thinking - e.g. dismantle the whole car to get the starter motor out).Take it (from the alloys) that's a 1.6 - is it the later catalysed version?Lovely car nonetheless, and Peugeot solid red paint must be some kind of special formula because it seems to resist fading... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2_craig Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 A 205GTi certainly isn't my idea of "shite", simply because most of the motoring press was referring to it using the phrase "modern classic" almost immediately after launch! Not the case with its rival the Uno Turbo for example...However - they are nice cars - and have survived in good numbers - shite or not, there are lots of 205 fans on here, myself included. Welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
205 gti Posted June 6, 2008 Author Share Posted June 6, 2008 Yeah fair enough, I always suspected it to be too well proportioned to be truly shite and the condition isn't too shabby - its not perfect mind, 135,000 miles of generally being thrashed has taken its toll - but it'll be a great daily driver when its through the MOT.You're right, its the 1.6 but its a non-sunroof non-cat, much sought after by trackday boys - or it would be, if someone hadn't fitted a crap sunroof somewhere along the line. So its been saved from that fate at least!The red paint has faded in a couple of spots, but vigourous T-cut should sort it I hope. Certainly better than the pale pink mid 90s Toyotas kicking about in Bradford where I work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r.welfare Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 The great thing about elderly Pugs is they tend to hide their age/miles quite well - although I've never owned a 205, only 405s and 406s which were/are well-loved by the minicab fraternity for precisely that reason! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Bo11ox Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 205 1.6 GTi's are for WINNERS. I used to be forever clacking mine into kerbs etc by driving it in an unskilled manner. Love em! I reckon they will be worth serious coin in a few years, if there is not a world war over food or energy or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
205 gti Posted June 6, 2008 Author Share Posted June 6, 2008 Thanks for the kudos and various welcomes. I love driving it too, or I did, as it was so long ago now that I can't really remember. In fact the last time it was properly driven it wasn't even me behind the wheel. I was following Mr HillmanImp from this here website and struggling to keep up.R.Welfare, you should extend your Pug collection to include a 205 GTi as soon as possible, before they become expensive. You can still get a decent one for £500 if you avoid all the cosmetically perfect mechanically rubbish ones for silly money.Definitely gonna get cracking on it tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r.welfare Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 If I do extend, it would probably be a 205 DTurbo to be honest! Although my wife would probably extend the likelihood of divorce if I did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
205 gti Posted June 6, 2008 Author Share Posted June 6, 2008 If I do extend, it would probably be a 205 DTurbo to be honest! Although my wife would probably extend the likelihood of divorce if I did I know the feeling... My Mrs is learning to drive at the moment, which means I'll soon have an excuse to buy another cheap car for her to 'learn' in!As for you Mr Welfare - I think a 205 STDT is in order, its nothing to do with sexual health.... Just a 1.8TD with the GTI bodykit, posh velour seats, alloys... If you can find one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2_craig Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Copped a decaying one in Loughborough last year but the it's disappeared off this site, however it's on my photobucket a/c somewhere and I still have the original on my old PC. One of these days I will revive my LEICESTERSHITE thread, one pic per day Loadsa 205s over here still, but I don't tend to photograph them because I don't consider them "shite"... (mainly due to the lengthy production run) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRegieRitmo Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 I'm also fitting a straight through big bore exhaust, lowering springs, guttman body kit, single wiper conversion.... only joking. Its staying standard really.Phew! - was about to suggest you'd come to the wrong forum! As far as I'm concerned any old & interesting vehicle is welcome here, mainstream or niche, it doesn't have to be rubbish to get respect. It just won't be called shit or shite, it will be viewed for what it is, a good fun car! Everybody loves something.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuvvum Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 The first car I ever drove properly was a 205 (my mum's 205GLD, reg E827UNF, round Castle Combe race track in about 1991) so I've always had a soft spot for them. Attempts to own a GTI have so far proved futile unfortunately, but it's definitely on my "to own" list. In fact I saw a gorgeous Gentry on the A11 whilst dragging the Giulietta back from Rugby, so I might start hunting for one of those.Welcome, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyG Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Welcome - 205 Gti more a 'modern classic' than shite/shit in any way. Even the standard 205s are great little cars - seem to last a long time as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split_Pin Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Hello!I'd agree that Pug 205 Gti's are lovely cars although i've never driven one - guess what , I've got a 1/18 scale model.Now what would be shite would be if you finished repairing your 205, kept it, and bought a clapped-out 309 Gti to arse about with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogweasel Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Excellent!I do get excited by 205's, oh yes. Had a couple... a '91 "Trio S" which was only slightly faster/dryer/more luxurious than walking (basic ain't the word, 4-spd, not even a chuffing temp gauge, but it had spanking green seatbelts & trim detailing ). Remains to this day the most expensive vehicle I have bought for personal use. Very fun in a slow, rolly-polly way. Also briefly had a 1.6 GTi, which went like shit off the proverbial shovel. Shame it was a total rotten crock with some fairly terminal mechanical maladies and seemingly comprised of at least 2 entirely different cars bodged together Didn't last long.Nice 1.9 would do me, oh yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRegieRitmo Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Remains to this day the most expensive vehicle I have bought for personal use. What went wrong?Nice 1.9 would do me, oh yes.They must really fly! At the time it must have been far & away the biggest engined small hot hatch on the market! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogweasel Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Remains to this day the most expensive vehicle I have bought for personal use. What went wrong?Oh, nothing went wrong. But I paid £1100 for it, more than I have ever given for anything else for my own consumption (though 'Er Indoors always gets several times that.... ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M'coli Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 It's the 309 that really counts as shite - slightly worse in almost every respect than the same-engined 205 for speed, acceleration or handling, but able to carry sooo much more...I've never seen one scrapped due to rot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillmanImp Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 I love 309's and have had 2 of them. I actually love the shape. No GTi, but a GE and a GL (moved up in the world to the GL). Funnily enough, Mr 205 Gti once tried drunkenly sorting out the dent on the nearside door for me...'i know if we kick the offside door it will push the other door out'.By the time we finished kicking the crap out of the rest of the car all i could do was scrap it. Was a good night out mind, other than that.Would be well up for getting another 309 though. Am i the only one that thinks they look sporty? Probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRegieRitmo Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 It's the 309 that really counts as shiteIt's bed was already made for it in that respect as it was intended to be a Talbot Horizon replacement but then Peugeot decided to wind the Talbot brand up so used the car themselves. Hence why it has an -09 name which doesn't fit in with anything else! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 The 1600 205 GTi is my all-time favourite hot hatch....Superb! Not Shite IMO....A bit like my old MX-5, I'd say that they're currently on the cusp of cl*ss*cdom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrogeezer Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 Was talking to Mr B about 205 gti's last weekend, great cars.I just looked on ebay and there are loads on there with no MOT/Tax......guess there is a few common problems that people can't be bothered to fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55bloke Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 Hello and welcome! Like just about everyone else on here, I love the 205 too, so who cares if it's shite or not? I'm constantly amazed by how many there are still in daily use- it must be just about the commonest late eighties/early nineties car on the roads? Certainly around here at least! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRegieRitmo Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 the commonest late eighties/early nineties car on the roads?Or even early eighties/mid nineties! I think it had an 11 or 12 year production run 1983 - 94/95? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timewaster Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 I had a 205 Gti 1.6. Absolutely loved it. Bought when I was 21 for £3k and cost £800 to insure But it was worth every penny - I wouldn't have insured me in it!For a lad used to a mk2 cavalier, it went like a rocket and defied the laws of physics in the corners.How I never killed it, myself or innocent bystanders I'll never know.It was a red one too - G544 EPA where are you?(Probably in your missus new saucepan set!)Hoping for similar fun when the AXGT hits the road. Need to sell the Astra first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRegieRitmo Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 I had a 205 Gti 1.6. Absolutely loved it. Bought when I was 21 for £3k and cost £800 to insure Is that all! What group is it? At 20 I was paying £800 a year as a named driver, on mum's insurance on a Fiesta Si 1.6, group 8 & it was nothing raucous by stretch of the imagination. Mind you, it must have just been a bit of an arse insurance wise because also at group 8 insurance I could have had an Astra 1.8 SRi which must have been alot more worthy of the insurance group! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timewaster Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 I had a 205 Gti 1.6. Absolutely loved it. Bought when I was 21 for £3k and cost £800 to insure Is that all! What group is it? At 20 I was paying £800 a year as a named driver, on mum's insurance on a Fiesta Si 1.6, group 8 & it was nothing raucous by stretch of the imagination. Mind you, it must have just been a bit of an arse insurance wise because also at group 8 insurance I could have had an Astra 1.8 SRi which must have been alot more worthy of the insurance group!Group 9 i think. It was 1994. The 1.6 cavalier had been about £400 fully comp and the 205 was 3rd party only.I only pay £450 for the Sierra, and thats group 20! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRegieRitmo Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 I only pay £450 for the Sierra, and thats group 20!Well yes but you're 35 now!It always seems a bit convoluted to me, I mean once you get to group 20 all the seriously quick cars are there but you can't get more than group 20, so your Sierra is lumped in with things like Ferrari Enzos & Porsche Carreras which seems a bit haywire to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timewaster Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 Well yes but you're 35 now!Ssssh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogweasel Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 I had my 205GTi at 21, with ZERO ncb after the whole 'parrots' fiasco (Basically I had been driving uninsure for 6 months after the company went under but no-one thought to tell me, cost my NCB though, ) Cost about £700 per annum, which at the time was nicht so schlect (esp as i was living in the Lancaster "marsh estate" at the time)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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