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#2371 OFFLINE   83C

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Posted 19 January 2019 - 07:24 AM

Sounds like a very similar idea to the Bulleid 4DDs on the Southern, they too suffered from slow dwell times.
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Posted 19 January 2019 - 02:56 PM

As others have said, tis indeed a Crellin-Duplex half-decker. IIRC about a dozen were built in both front and underfloor-engined forms, first by Lincs Trailers and then the rights were taken over by Mann Egerton. One has survived (JVB 908) - I believe it's coming to the end of a very long-term restoration and should turn a few heads when it's done. If you're wondering how the interior works, there's a central corridor with steps up and down into compartments, each with two pairs of seats facing each other and overlapped so the backs of the upper seats are above the fronts of the lower ones. Not exactly step-free easy access, and slow boarding and alighting times killed the idea off.

a bit like the  4-DD  EMUs that Bulleid  had built for the southern ...

 

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Posted 25 January 2019 - 12:30 AM

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sorry for it being facebook

 

but check out the video! how awesome is that? Routemasters cruising 3 wide down the motorway  :mrgreen:


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Posted 25 January 2019 - 10:16 AM

https://www.facebook...50144838796350/


sorry for it being facebook

but check out the video! how awesome is that? Routemasters cruising 3 wide down the motorway :mrgreen:


That is fucking ace! Not* that I've ever been involved in anything like that in the late 70's or early 80's involving AEC's finest single deck products..

Love the car undertaking the lot on the hard shoulder near the end.
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Posted 25 January 2019 - 09:20 PM

That is superb. Well found. RMA's will cruise at 60 so they may not have been holding up the traffic quite as much as if it was standard RM's.

And that guy going up the hard shoulder does so after they've broken formation so I don't know what his problem is. I keep playing that bit back to try and work out what the car is. I'm torn between a Lada and a Fiat 131.
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Posted 25 January 2019 - 09:36 PM

That is superb. Well found. RMA's will cruise at 60 so they may not have been holding up the traffic quite as much as if it was standard RM's.

And that guy going up the hard shoulder does so after they've broken formation so I don't know what his problem is. I keep playing that bit back to try and work out what the car is. I'm torn between a Lada and a Fiat 131.

 

Thanks :) I showed it to my mum who found it very impressive (she very much understands how impressive it is) but also laughed at the holding up the M4 bit, to which I did remind her that RMAs where specced to do 70 :)

 

I also found it funny how the beetle gets in the middle of it all, then probably suddenly notices he has 3 Routemasters up his chuff, and promptly fucks off  :mrgreen:

 

(its a shame its on facebook as Facebook being facbook aside, they compress the hell out of videos)



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Posted 04 February 2019 - 08:15 PM

Kicking around Stoke, I stumbled upon this:

 

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As heritage liveries go, I think it suits it.


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Posted 04 February 2019 - 08:42 PM

We have an ECOC liveried ALX400 B7TL named after a late driver and enthusiast, it started to look slightly faded, so was dispatched back to Rotherham central works fir a spruce up. This is all Giles Fearnley's idea. He loves heritage and actually has a Keighley and District Lynx from his old Blazefield days.
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Posted 04 February 2019 - 08:44 PM

Interest wording on it, "30 years of private bus operators in The Potteries, 1986 - 2016"

Given I remember going to operators like Turner's, Beresford's, Stoniers,and a fair few others in the 1970's, then the truth isn't always what you read.
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Posted 04 February 2019 - 11:29 PM

I happened across Lothian's newest tri-axle toy yesterday

 

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I'm not convinced by their claim that it will take 129 cars off the road

 

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but to hammer the point home, they had assembled (what I presume to be) 129 cars, creating a particularly lacklustre car show 

 

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this was the real star attraction  :)

 

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 12:06 AM

will admit its pretty cool to see a big tri-axle bus like that go into service in the UK :)

 

I used to read about them on wikipedia and how only places like Hong kong got them, and was saddened we never got any new despite them being made here

 

(twas cool reading about the 1980s ones like the big yellow one on here that got imported back? to the UK :) )



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Posted 05 February 2019 - 09:15 AM

^^^ Stagecoach bought a couple of tri axle Olympians, the Megadecker, back in 1988. One is preserved.

It's alright having such things but think of the dwell times at stops. Unless you have some very good off bus ticketing system then you have to increase the running times to accommodate such things. Just imagine 9.30 am when the wombles can use their passes. 129 of them all presenting their passses to the reader. Even at 5 seconds each (shuffle on, present card, wander off to seat), that's assuming they have them ready and don't present their co-op discount card instead, you're stood there a long time.
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Posted 05 February 2019 - 09:45 AM

^^^ Stagecoach bought a couple of tri axle Olympians, the Megadecker, back in 1988. One is preserved.

It's alright having such things but think of the dwell times at stops. Unless you have some very good off bus ticketing system then you have to increase the running times to accommodate such things. Just imagine 9.30 am when the wombles can use their passes. 129 of them all presenting their passses to the reader. Even at 5 seconds each (shuffle on, present card, wander off to seat), that's assuming they have them ready and don't present their co-op discount card instead, you're stood there a long time.

 

oh very cool I was not aware of that one :)

 

but yeah good point on the dwell time, I know its one of the things that kept the Routemaster going in Central London for a long time :)

 

(I wonder how they dealt with the dwell times in hong kong or if they just didn't care?)



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Posted 05 February 2019 - 12:10 PM

Kicking around Stoke, I stumbled upon this:

 

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As heritage liveries go, I think it suits it.

 

Surely it's a 'period' livery?

 

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 02:33 PM

TM travel now have an ex MASS tri axle Dennis on the school routes, looks low floor so presumably that’s why it was saved.

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 02:53 PM

First have announced more offloading of operations in the North West as it is losing money big style


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Posted 05 February 2019 - 04:27 PM

Is this about Manchester? I'd welcome that, the drivers are cunts.

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 05:57 PM

Interesting engine orientation on that massive Volvo thing - same as the E500 I believe. Offset longitudinal arrangement that you sit on.

 

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 07:05 PM

Like the original B7L, the single deck with the shower cubicle at the back in the UK.

Designed for those countries that drive on the wrong side of the road and where three doors, one at the very back are common.

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 07:42 PM

oh very cool I was not aware of that one :)

but yeah good point on the dwell time, I know its one of the things that kept the Routemaster going in Central London for a long time :)

(I wonder how they dealt with the dwell times in hong kong or if they just didn't care?)


Toured the Far East a couple of times in the mid to late 90's. Queues at bus stops?, Since when has anybody but the British queued?. Conductors were employed to collect fares, works out cheaper with packed buses and fare dodgers. One man had single width doors on a fair few vehicles. Dwell times, eh, traffic is slow enough anyway.
The reason they had night services was because it was cheaper to run buses than try and find storage space that was only required at night time.
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Posted 05 February 2019 - 08:28 PM

TM travel now have an ex MASS tri axle Dennis on the school routes, looks low floor so presumably that’s why it was saved.


TM have two of them. They were new to First Glasgow but only on lease from Volvo, hence when withdrawn they were sold not scrapped.
They are B7Ls, so sideways engine, n/s/r and generally low floor. Bought them mainly for schools but also get used in normal service at times.

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 08:03 AM

Well well well....

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 08:02 PM

Well, bus shite turns up in the most unlikely places. This afternoon I was watching happened to be in the room when the 'Four O'clock Club' came on CBBC (for some inexplicable reason on at Five O'clock ? ) and the school bus was yes a blue LDV Convoy :) Nice to see the Beeb spending our money wisely*


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Posted 08 February 2019 - 12:50 PM

Talking of LDV Convoys...

Does anyone know the unladen weight of an ‘02 15-seater minibus?

I’ve been asked to move one, but I think it’s probably too heavy for my trailer.

It’s plated weight is 3850kg if that helps.

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Posted 08 February 2019 - 04:36 PM

From memory I think it is about 2300kg, possibly a few kg more depending on seats fitted. I would not want to have that on anything less than an Ifor Williams CT177 or equivalent (3500kg MGW) and even then I would want a serious tow vehicle.



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Posted 09 February 2019 - 05:48 PM

Every time I go up to our yard something else has turned up. Today it was this.
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Unlike most buses here, I dont think it's local. Registration TYD911W. MOT website says it's a Leyland Leopard. Anyone any idea of it's history.

And I'm guessing this is supposed to be five across seating.
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We had some five across Dennis Javelins in Winchester but I'm sure they were wider than this. I mean can you honestly see two people sitting here
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Looks like nice spacious 2+1 to me.
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Posted 09 February 2019 - 06:54 PM

^ Bit of a rarity there, a utility bodied Duple Dominant. Our local firm, Cleveland Transit had quite a few (along with the coach-spec ones, all Leopard based.

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 08:56 PM

^ Bit of a rarity there, a utility bodied Duple Dominant. Our local firm, Cleveland Transit had quite a few (along with the coach-spec ones, all Leopard based.
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Aye, we ran a pair of these bus seated Plaxton coach shell, ex-Cleveland Trabsit Leopards HEF378-9N.
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Posted 09 February 2019 - 10:00 PM

Safeway, South Petherton apparently, built like that.

Dominant bus bodied Leopards weren't that uncommon, done many a mile in one on local service, although 51 seaters.

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 10:12 PM

Some shite from my time with a firm whose bus operations were the very definition of shite until DDA came along:

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C262SPC &amp; B109KPF, Leyland Tiger/ELCB EL2000 by Scott Todd-Howard, on Flickr

 

6 of these rebodied Tigers passed through Tanat Valley’s hands, including my own B105 KPF. These two were the last to leave, pictures here on the day they were collected by new owners.


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IAZ3454, Dennis Javelin/Duple 320 by Scott Todd-Howard, on Flickr

IAZ 3454 receiving extensive metalwork at the depot for the usual Duple rot. Known as IAShed because it was a proper nail. Not a tool for rice pudding skin pulling, which was very useful* in an area full of hills.


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Childish fun with blinds! by Scott Todd-Howard, on Flickr

Tanat also had several Leyland Lynxes, including a few ex-TWM with 4-track blinds. One was once seen heading up the M54 by Telford with SHIT Excursion proudly on display during a staff outing....


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H150GGS, Leyland Olympian/Northern Counties by Scott Todd-Howard, on Flickr

Bus shite collection. H150 GGS came from Slavecoach in the Fens, pictured here not long after collection at a petrol station somewhere in the land devoid of hills. It was a long slog home late at night but the heaters worked, I had a stock of batteries for my radio and a full flask of tea.

More as I find them...

 

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