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#2011 OFFLINE   Rover414

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Posted 03 August 2018 - 10:47 PM

I've joined the ranks of having my own bus now, bought my old Optare Solo off work earlier this week for not a lot of money. Always had a soft spot for it and couldn't turn down what I was offered.


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Posted 03 August 2018 - 11:49 PM

Lordy...have to admit that I've not much love for the Solo.

Having said that though, while I'd not want one in my garage I do think it's very important that some are preserved as they did a lot to get accessible transport to markets where it just wasn't possible before.

Probably not too bad to live with either I guess - so long as you're handy with electronic detective work.

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Posted 04 August 2018 - 12:02 AM

I've joined the ranks of having my own bus now, bought my old Optare Solo off work earlier this week for not a lot of money. Always had a soft spot for it and couldn't turn down what I was offered.


Fair play for doing so! SoSlos for me were always a bit hit and miss, the early Merc engined ones were rather slow if they were trying to push around the longer versions. The Cummins ISB6 engined versions were much better, easily capable of 90mph if the limiter broke. Allegedly*.

Electrics are a pain on the Solo, and rot can get into the lower box sections, but I have to say Optare’s system of easily removable side panels does help with access. They’re pretty cheap to run otherwise, tyres are the same as a Vario, easy to get bits for - I may know to one being broken if you need parts or want to come and get some spares.
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Posted 04 August 2018 - 12:03 AM

I am after some bits to be honest, some engine pipework and interior parts.


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Posted 04 August 2018 - 12:06 AM

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 09:30 PM



The Cummins ISB6 engined versions were much better, easily capable of 90mph if the limiter broke. Allegedly*.


Your bollocks are clearly far, far larger than mine.

We had one. An 09-plate ex Demo M950 with an ISB6 hanging off it's arse. It was absolutely shitting terrifying and within an hour of my first shift in it I had almost put it in a field - considering at the time my shift bus was a 210bhp 6-pot Dart SLF with an on/off throttle pedal and no retarder to speak of, the Solo was the scarier of the two by far.

I never worked out why Solos just refuse point blank to actually handle... they work up to about a 780 but anything bigger is pointless.

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 09:31 PM

Our workshop tonight, taken from my office door - many generations of Plaxton.a996babe0baa11ed1fe2bf5138d41f8f.jpg

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 10:35 PM

What's under the skin of the Premiere then? They're starting to get a bit of a rare sight now.

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 11:52 PM

What's under the skin of the Premiere then? They're starting to get a bit of a rare sight now.


Usually it's ferrous oxide...
That one is a B10M new to Oxford.
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Posted 09 August 2018 - 12:42 AM

Aye, there was a time Premieres were everywhere, and I've been treated to journeys on them for various reasons more times than I care to imagine. Decent bodies, whatever was under them. 

 

Haven't seen one for a good while now I think about it.


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Posted 09 August 2018 - 06:42 AM

What's under the skin of the Premiere then? They're starting to get a bit of a rare sight now.

Premiere indeed!!! Excalibur I'll have you know!

It's a '98 Volvo B10M auto under all that, new to City of Oxford as their 9 registered R9 OXF. Framework all replaced in the recent past, no holed stretch panels. Goes like a bat out of hell too, properly quick even for a B10M.

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Posted 22 August 2018 - 01:37 PM

I’m on holiday and it’s raining... my friends will be amazed if any one can identify the coach in this morning’s “artwork”.

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Posted 22 August 2018 - 03:51 PM

Those triangular-ish windows immediately made me think MkIII Plaxton Paramount


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Posted 22 August 2018 - 03:56 PM

I’m on holiday and it’s raining... my friends will be amazed if any one can identify the coach in this morning’s “artwork”.

 late Plaxton Paramount wit the 'stepped' window line rather than the slope first window and  small 2nd window 



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Posted 22 August 2018 - 04:59 PM

Got it in one! Friends are now very impressed*

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Posted 17 September 2018 - 07:24 AM

My turn to be papped... SEC in Glasgow last week with my daily driver.5c143e8223ef72c3c0bd2cb900c446e5.jpg

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Posted 17 September 2018 - 10:55 AM

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Posted 17 September 2018 - 01:42 PM

'J' Reg, m8. Oof - yrr in fine company here ;)
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Posted 17 September 2018 - 05:33 PM

'J' Reg, m8. Oof - yrr in fine company here ;)

... for the sake of completeness, tgis afternoon I had the K-reg one which is technically older than the J-reg one.

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Posted 17 September 2018 - 07:21 PM

Ex Ulsterbus Wright bodied Tiger, quite rare in the UK. So who was driving it on that U Tube video ?

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Posted 17 September 2018 - 08:37 PM

They look smarter than most stuff 15 years newer!

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Posted 17 September 2018 - 08:52 PM

I miss buses how they used to be up to about 1996, particularly the Ailsas... the noise they made, my god, one of my earliest bus memories was being on an Ailsa charging up the Forfar road and the noise being similar to a herd of elephants howling through a megaphone as they jumped off a cliff

 

 

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Posted 17 September 2018 - 08:58 PM

Ex Ulsterbus Wright bodied Tiger, quite rare in the UK. So who was driving it on that U Tube video ?

25 built so quite rare in general; this was one of the seven (I think) brought in by Invincible at Tamworth. The K-plate is ex Ulsterbus 1408/WXI 4408 which is actually the first of the Wright 'Classic' style produced. The J-reg is ex Ulsterbus 1413/WXI 4413 which was the first of the 25 to actually enter service in June 1992.

I wasn't aware of the YouTube video (seen it now) - it's our transport manager Mark at the wheel. It was K984 JNV's first public outing after repaint into red in October 2016 and it got passed about like a used scudbook for most of the afternoon.

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Posted 17 September 2018 - 09:23 PM

They look smarter than most stuff 15 years newer!

Cheers Jon; we DO try to keep them tidy but we had a pretty rough spell earlier in the year which kinda fucked us a bit but we're starting to push on again. We lost eight of our nine newest coaches during a bout of unpleasantness best left for another time but we're actually doing better than ever.

Repaints stopped for a bit which left some of the fleet looking quite tired but we've brought that back in house too with one new* addition just about to head for MOT before a Volvo B7R and a Volvo B10M come in to get done. Once they're done the other B10M is due in for re-repaint, followed by another B7R.

The one just about finished was this very cheap Merc 29-seater; it was a genuine barn find which needed a wee bit of work but it should be back on the road by mid October (waiting on an MOT slot). It's also had six brand new wheel rims since these pictures, the bumper is now on and been fitted with new light units all round. Looks okay for 17 years old!43bf79d942361744415899f34ba05ebf.jpgd34b8c6746274f6ffaafa7ddc3570575.jpg2ad4753545626402a076d53c44c59e6d.jpg788047f64db8e5b1e358fd843e54c6b0.jpgfdc3a022aa8c8663aaf294b622f8f97a.jpg3dc622a6ab303a6ad6c52cbf65ea4347.jpg8918671c53c1aca491abdf5dd947f9bc.jpg38a56111487db0fa72301e2fbda5b010.jpgfea989905100188cbda9102da4ea314d.jpg

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Posted 19 September 2018 - 09:23 PM

That little Merc is now outside again. Just the front end to build up and then MOT... hopefully.acb02fca72d60b81bc5c6aed0b0f8008.jpg

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Posted 19 September 2018 - 09:33 PM

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Posted 19 September 2018 - 10:58 PM

Saw a Paramount today.  Not sure what chassis it's on as it was hidden half below a hedgerow - Cummins L10 engine though based on the burble (which is why I looked in that direction) - and unlike about the last dozen I've seen - still had the correct maaaaahossive tail lights, which made me far happier to see than it really should have.

 

Just in plain white (looked shiny) so just out the paint shop I have to guess.

 

Used to think they were dead boring when we got them for school trips...I only considered the Supremes or Dominants "real" coaches.  Okay, the Jonkheere P499 got a pass simply because I'd never seen a Jonkheere up until that point, so it got points for being different.  Even if based on a first gen B10M with the smaller engine it was geologically slow as the body was really a couple of tonnes too heavy for the engine.

 

They look "proper" now though!  Would happily ride one anywhere over the modern tat.

 

Still wouldn't own one though.  The chrome, veneer and attempt to convey glamour that we saw in the earlier days is what draws me in really - and visually I like the holder more brutalist looks of the 70s coaches really...Dominant II being the winner hands down in terms of looks for me.  Shame they rust in such truly exciting ways.

 

We had a Cheetah 2 on the Dyce Airlink in the first few months back in Aberdeen.  The degree to which it leaked when it rained was truly comical.  Only thing worse was the reliability record.  Especially as we'd paid for vinyls for the blasted thing, and that the operator only set up one ticket machine for the route, so we never got fares when the wrong bus was in use... can't remember what it was replaced with between that and the Solo which lacked working heating as long as I knew it...

 

I do miss the truly hilarious noises the Alison boxes these old Mercedes were usually fitted with used to make though.  Especially the one which used to regularly appear on our route in MK which appeared to be stuck in kickdown mode...so it went pretty well, but sounded epic...made a change from them usually barely making it up a hill without losing drive which was more normal behaviour on the MK Metro fleet...


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The Allison auto does make some rather odd whistles & whines


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Posted 20 September 2018 - 07:23 AM

It's not the gearbox that howls believe it or not. I've a mate who served his time at Turners who spent his time converting manual Mercs to auto and rebuilding Allison AT545s. None of then howl on the bench.

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Posted 21 September 2018 - 05:03 PM

Just spent a good few days in Turin and it's a pretty bus heavy place. I noticed the hub of the local operator (GTT) is the following buses:

 

33401375854_4ecb0e3f19_c.jpgIrisbus Cityclass 12 - GTT 2740 by Pi Eye, on Flickr

 

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They are a bit of a mixed bag to be honest. At one point, we had to take a replacement bus to cover the suspension of the (automated, neat) Metro, and one of those single deck Cityclass Ivecos turned up. It was arguably overladen, and it felt like the rear axle was moving about under all the weight, wiggling a bit too much, and a heck of a lean into bends!

 

They seem to vary in condition wildly, between pretty tidy to absolutely fucked, with saggy suspension, oil and grease soaked panels and barely visible lights. Some of the bendy buses had bits of the articulated parts dragging along the road FFS...

 

The Van Hool things were mid-mounted engined, which makes more sense in a bendy. The Bredamenarinibus looked odd, like someone sneezed some leftover trailer lights on the front and rear of them.

 

There was also some electric buses too, some of which were tiny. 

 

You get on the bus and validate your ticket, I don't think you can actually buy the tickets from the driver. I noticed that NO ONE seemed to bother validating their ticket and I can only assume they were travelling for nothing. The drivers had a bank of CCTV (in black and white) monitors next to them, seemed like a good idea. Interiors are bare as hell though, plastic seats and made for standing really. I noticed the bendys were plated to carry 143 people!!!


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