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#42331 ONLINE   BenHar

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 09:27 PM

I think the 1500 is the same as Spitfire/Midget 1500s, which means it's an A series without the reversed head and the original 803cc sized three crank bearings.


No, it is the same as the Spitfire/Midget, but they are all the Triumph engine.

It came in 998 (I think), 1147, 1296 and 1493 variants.

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Your clearly thick....end of.


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Posted 09 October 2017 - 09:27 PM

Yes, as I understand it the Triumph engine was based on the same design as the A series, hence my comment.



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Posted 09 October 2017 - 10:00 PM

Spraying the whole thing so close enough is fine. It'll upset the hardcore collectors but fuck em. I just don't want to keep buying random cans and hoping, if someone can scan the actual colour in and get 85.7% of it spot on that'll be easier! Will post about on Facebook locally first when I get some money and see what's about

You can get colour scanning apps for smart phones, or for a more calibrated colour match decent paint shops will have a gadget to scan your hoover. An ancient thread about it on pistonheads.

 

The trumpet 1300 was stretched into the 1500 and dropped into the Midget; it's a pretty mediocre engine with a marginal bottom end, tuning them heavily will cause fragging. Nothing to do with the A series at all other than both being produced by the same dysfunctional corporation.

 

As Sprints are in the non-AS price range these days, the 1850 is a better bet; 90% of the performance can be had and arguably less danger of OMGHGF and associated hazards. Uprated brakes might be needed if you use the performance though, as I think the Sprint had uprated brakes(TR6?) over the other Dollys.



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Posted 09 October 2017 - 10:07 PM

The 1500 doesn't appear to have a good record for anything


FTFY. It's a crock of shite.
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Posted 09 October 2017 - 10:09 PM

Having said all that I had a 1500 Midget for 9 years & I got it when I was 21. You can guess how a young bloke drove a RWD sports car by the fact I had to replace a halfshaft and a diff two years apart that both blew sideways around the same corner. Never a spot of problem with the engine & I put a lot of miles on it in that time.



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Posted 10 October 2017 - 06:20 AM

You can get colour scanning apps for smart phones, or for a more calibrated colour match decent paint shops will have a gadget to scan your hoover. An ancient thread about it on pistonheads.

The trumpet 1300 was stretched into the 1500 and dropped into the Midget; it's a pretty mediocre engine with a marginal bottom end, tuning them heavily will cause fragging. Nothing to do with the A series at all other than both being produced by the same dysfunctional corporation.

As Sprints are in the non-AS price range these days, the 1850 is a better bet; 90% of the performance can be had and arguably less danger of OMGHGF and associated hazards. Uprated brakes might be needed if you use the performance though, as I think the Sprint had uprated brakes(TR6?) over the other Dollys.

I have seen sprints going for the 6-7k mark on eBay. Not cheap, cheap but still not ridiculous amount (imo). A lot of them appear to be well cared for too.

Shame the 1500 isn't any good, as you can pick them up for reasonable monies. E.g.
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There was a red one on recently too for similar.

Not sure if it's the angle of them but the square lighted cars look depressed.
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How well do they all actually handle? I assume much better than a MGB GT? :D
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Posted 10 October 2017 - 07:50 AM

Unfortunately, he deleted his post pretty swiftly.

 

Fortunately, not before I captured it.  

 

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 08:48 AM

As Sprints are in the non-AS price range these days, the 1850 is a better bet; 90% of the performance can be had and arguably less danger of OMGHGF and associated hazards. Uprated brakes might be needed if you use the performance though, as I think the Sprint had uprated brakes(TR6?) over the other Dollys.

The 1850cc Dolomite engine is not recommended. It is the same as the earlier Saab 99 engine (or is it the other way round.) The timing chain is made of elastic and as the cylinder head bolts go into the block at an angle, HGF is always lurking in the background :( Would it possible to arrange a marriage between the top half of a Saab B series engine and the bottom half of a Dolomite engine. 145 BHP just by bolting on a turbo :)


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Posted 10 October 2017 - 09:38 AM

Thought id check the pollen filter.... oh...

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END of the road for the  MONTURDO !! :-(  :-(  :-(  

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 10:49 AM

So what was wrong with catsinthewelder's van? I'm rather intrigued now.
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Posted 10 October 2017 - 11:17 AM

I believe a lot of bits that should be inside are now outside, starting with the oil.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd like to know too.


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Posted 10 October 2017 - 12:00 PM

How well do they all actually handle? I assume much better than a MGB GT? :D

The low powered cars an infinitely chuckable but are no match for a modern car. With my 1300 light understeer was the order of the day with the occasional 4 wheel drift as the 155/80s tried to find grip, body roll is hilarious by modern standards but seems to have little effect on the car's ability to stay on the road, the Dolly forum said that things get scary long before they get dangerous, I'd agree. With a healthy, stock 1300 motor spirited driving involves finding a narrow and windy road and keeping the accelerator pinned to the floor while never actually getting above 50mph, all the power lives at the top end so 3rd gear at 4,000rpm+ and speed conservation are your friends.

 

The 1850 is another beast. Much more torque at the low end, wheel spin starts can be achieved without even trying in wet conditions. The PO really used to fling it about but I was too chicken, used mine as a comfortable, economical cruiser. To be fair I fucked the steering by coming off a roundabout backwards after owning it a week, they're probably better when the steering doesn't feature 2+ inches of play... I was painfully aware of the fact that if the arse stepped out I'd never be able to catch it, although the Dolomite steering is usually very tight and accurate, great road feel, as evidenced by the 1300.

Having said that it was still great to take advantage of the torque, sat at 60 in top gear and stamping the go pedal would get you to terrifying speeds in a satisfyingly loud and rapid manner.

 

The 1850 isn't really all that fragile, there are two main problems. Water pumps start failing are are a pain to replace, this also causes overheating which is the downfall of the Triumph slant-4. If you cook a head gasket taking the head off can be an utter nightmare as the studs really enjoy snapping, it's do-able but I opted for buying a whole spare engine rather than ever try and take mine apart! The second thing is the timing chain, a good chain and tensioner will last about 60k, however a lot of cars are fitted with a Rolon chain/tensioner kit which are famously made of chocolate and can and will fail within a couple of thousand miles...

 

The 1300 lump is the same as the Spitfire/Herald unit (mostly), all the parts are available and it's insultingly easy to work on. The only thing to watch for is ensuring it's getting good oil flow and that the bottom end isn't rumbling, rebuilds tend to occur at about 100k or so depending on use. They are also low geared, 60mph in top is damn near 4000rpm, but you'll never know 'cause there is no rev counter!

 

The 1500 is a 50mph plodder, use the torque to keep the revs low and they'll last just fine. Extended use higher up the rev range causes the big end bearings to vanish at an alarming rate, and overdrive gearbox helps a lot.


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Posted 10 October 2017 - 12:57 PM

Eric the car guy has new car :

1994 Acura Legend Coupe Type II 6 Speed !
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Posted 10 October 2017 - 01:01 PM

The low powered cars an infinitely chuckable but are no match for a modern car. With my 1300 light understeer was the order of the day with the occasional 4 wheel drift as the 155/80s tried to find grip, body roll is hilarious by modern standards but seems to have little effect on the car's ability to stay on the road, the Dolly forum said that things get scary long before they get dangerous, I'd agree. With a healthy, stock 1300 motor spirited driving involves finding a narrow and windy road and keeping the accelerator pinned to the floor while never actually getting above 50mph, all the power lives at the top end so 3rd gear at 4,000rpm+ and speed conservation are your friends.

 

The 1850 is another beast. Much more torque at the low end, wheel spin starts can be achieved without even trying in wet conditions. The PO really used to fling it about but I was too chicken, used mine as a comfortable, economical cruiser. To be fair I fucked the steering by coming off a roundabout backwards after owning it a week, they're probably better when the steering doesn't feature 2+ inches of play... I was painfully aware of the fact that if the arse stepped out I'd never be able to catch it, although the Dolomite steering is usually very tight and accurate, great road feel, as evidenced by the 1300.

Having said that it was still great to take advantage of the torque, sat at 60 in top gear and stamping the go pedal would get you to terrifying speeds in a satisfyingly loud and rapid manner.

 

The 1850 isn't really all that fragile, there are two main problems. Water pumps start failing are are a pain to replace, this also causes overheating which is the downfall of the Triumph slant-4. If you cook a head gasket taking the head off can be an utter nightmare as the studs really enjoy snapping, it's do-able but I opted for buying a whole spare engine rather than ever try and take mine apart! The second thing is the timing chain, a good chain and tensioner will last about 60k, however a lot of cars are fitted with a Rolon chain/tensioner kit which are famously made of chocolate and can and will fail within a couple of thousand miles...

 

The 1300 lump is the same as the Spitfire/Herald unit (mostly), all the parts are available and it's insultingly easy to work on. The only thing to watch for is ensuring it's getting good oil flow and that the bottom end isn't rumbling, rebuilds tend to occur at about 100k or so depending on use. They are also low geared, 60mph in top is damn near 4000rpm, but you'll never know 'cause there is no rev counter!

 

The 1500 is a 50mph plodder, use the torque to keep the revs low and they'll last just fine. Extended use higher up the rev range causes the big end bearings to vanish at an alarming rate, and overdrive gearbox helps a lot.

 

You're not helping my want for one of them. I just wished I had more room ... which probably is a good thing I don't.


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Posted 10 October 2017 - 01:21 PM

You're not helping my want for one of them. I just wished I had more room ... which probably is a good thing I don't.

On the flipside all the metalwork is like tin foil, sills and A pillars rot from the inside out, door skins are a service item and every bolt and fixing on the underside will snap long before it considers undoing. Also the front end is one big rust trap and every panel is welded, rather than bolted, on so replacement is a pain in the arse.
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Posted 10 October 2017 - 01:46 PM

On the flipside all the metalwork is like tin foil, sills and A pillars rot from the inside out, door skins are a service item and every bolt and fixing on the underside will snap long before it considers undoing. Also the front end is one big rust trap and every panel is welded, rather than bolted, on so replacement is a pain in the arse.


So buying one like this is a recipe for a really bad time?!
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Posted 10 October 2017 - 02:03 PM

On that one - from the photo's

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Sills both gone

Boot floor not looking good

Front wing, inner and h-lamp mounting panel all in various states of gone-itude......

Doors will be naffed

inner sills and floor probably totally shot too - as seals will never be water tight (none of mine have been - even new/replaced)

 

Sadly - they are one of those cars that always seem to be in the price bracket of - totally restored and hence silly-bids-only thanks or never looked after and money-pit/soul draining temptresses of Leyland goodness......... I always always seem to pick the latter ones up, bit like real life really :-(


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Posted 10 October 2017 - 02:27 PM

I got some slabs FOC a while back and decided to make some use of them today.DSC_1556.JPG
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Posted 10 October 2017 - 02:59 PM

From roadside tinkering we found one of the pulleys on the aux belt was seized, a pipe to the brake servo was sheered off and all the oil was out beyond that I don't know yet but I will find out.

The garage were a bit confused when I dropped it off as it isn't a van hire van, I was working for someone else that day.
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Posted 10 October 2017 - 03:04 PM

I got some slabs FOC a while back and decided to make some use of them today.attachicon.gifDSC_1556.JPG

I like those Santa Fe's. Newer shape than the one i had. Only thing i can't cope with is the off centre rear plate.  :?


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Posted 10 October 2017 - 03:28 PM

From roadside tinkering we found one of the pulleys on the aux belt was seized, a pipe to the brake servo was sheered off and all the oil was out beyond that I don't know yet but I will find out.

The garage were a bit confused when I dropped it off as it isn't a van hire van, I was working for someone else that day.


I'm struggling to put all those symptoms together into something that makes sense. Even more perplexing!

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 03:32 PM

We wondered if the vac pump had an oil feed that had somehow broken. Essentially we smelt burning then saw the oil light so turned it off and coasted to a halt.
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Posted 10 October 2017 - 06:53 PM

Quite often they have thrown a leg out of bed.
Changed a few that have now, won't use second hand engines anymore either, we get them new/reconditioned from Ford.
First one we did was a "low mileage" engine that only did another 10k.
These are on HiAb equipped vehicles so not exactly throw away after engine blow material.

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 08:09 PM

Feedback from my interview on Friday with the 2 French men.

 

They gave the contract to someone with more recent automotive experience. Who they thought would be more resilient.

 

FFS I worked for Lucas Industries for 9 years, Garrett for 2, and a Hydraulics supplier to JCB for 6,  plus 1 year making thrust reversers and 1 year making stuff for offshore oil industry, before becoming a contractor and working in Defence, Aero, Wind and Nuclear for 8 years.

 

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 08:27 PM

Yes, as I understand it the Triumph engine was based on the same design as the A series, hence my comment.


Interesting, can you point me to anything that explains the link?

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Your clearly thick....end of.


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Posted 10 October 2017 - 08:33 PM

Unfortunately, he deleted his post pretty swiftly.

 

Fortunately, not before I captured it.  

 

Fucking ace.

 

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Still on eBay though  :-D

 

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To be fair they do say...

 

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 09:12 PM

Feedback from my interview on Friday with the 2 French men.

 

They gave the contract to someone with more recent automotive experience. Who they thought would be more resilient.

 

 

Seems like resilient is the current management word du jour, I keep hearing it everywhere.   Twats.

 

Shame about the job but you should have no trouble finding another with that amount of experience.


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Posted 10 October 2017 - 09:23 PM

Decided ill put on mudflaps.. keep all cack out.. and thought i know ill swap the foglights to st ones.. oh differnt plugs, thats no prob, but... other day they stopped working so i checked no power to plug... arr check the earth nothing so place probe on suspension leg and got reading, added new earth from battery and still 12v.. popped indoors for wizz came out started the car turned on the foglights and nothing...wtf.. fuse is ok...rear fog works.. only conclusion is duff switjch so one ordered Ebai !!

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 09:29 PM

Who they thought would be more resilient.

 

 

Seems like resilient is the current management word du jour, I keep hearing it everywhere.   Twats.

 

Resilient is an odd choice of word in that context. Makes me think that the job is shit and they want someone that will put up with it.


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Posted 10 October 2017 - 09:30 PM

As incredulous as this may seem, it appears the (1.7 n/a diesel) engine in my Mk3 Astra estate is writing cheques that the headlights cannot honour.


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